ROSA ALBILI
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[00:00:00] You guys have this. Podcast brought tears to my eyes. It was so powerful. And it's with one of my new friends that I met at the beginning of this year. And we immediately clicked. So I was so stoked to have her on her name is Rosa and you guys are going to absolutely adore her. Rosa.
Billy is a Toronto based hematic coach and Neo emotional release guide. She's committed to helping high-achieving impasse. Who feels stuck despite their best efforts. If you're exhausted from doing all the right things, meditation therapy affirmation. But still feel anxious, overwhelmed, or like you're living someone else's life. Rosa understands the struggle immediately. She has a rich tapestry of lived experiences from growing up in Iran to moving to the U S 18 backpacking across Iran and India.
And now living in Canada, Rosa brings a profound and empathetic understanding to her work that I can totally agree to. She knows firsthand the impact of [00:01:00] trauma and suppression and how these experiences manifest in the body, both from her own journey and from the countless client. She's got it over the years. Through her unique coaching approach.
Rosa helps her clients release deeply stored emotions. They may not even be aware of. Break free from plea people, pleasing and set boundaries that feel truly authentic. Her clients move from feeling exhausted, anxious, and smaller to reclaiming their space and voice. Freeing themselves from the stories they've been telling themselves for years, if you're ready to heal deeply reconnect with your body and live a life that feels genuinely yours, not just through cut and dry strategies.
Rosa is here to help and get you there. We have a powerful conversation on the podcast today. And I am honored to be in the space with her. Let's get going.
I'm so excited. We have a friend, a colleague, an amazing, um, entrepreneur, badass woman owned business. [00:02:00] Rosa, welcome. Welcome to the rise to her podcast. Hi, Emily. Thanks so much for having me. I'm so excited to discuss everything that we're discussing today. Yeah, I'm so stoked. We met back in January in a business program, and I feel like we were like immediately kind of drawn to each other, always messaging each other, connecting on Instagram.
So it's been cool to see how your business has grown and shifted even in the last nine months. That's been super cool to witness. Same, same to you. And I feel like you were right on point. The moment that we met in the program, I was like, yeah, be quick. I know this energy. I want to, I want to know her more and it's been really amazing to see how beautiful you're unfolding in your entrepreneurship journey as well.
Thank you. I appreciate you being here. And I know that you have some incredible wisdom to share. I've actually done a session with you, Rosa, and that was [00:03:00] amazing. It spurred right because I was having a lot of nervous system reactions to The unfolding of my business and I was breaking out in hives and I know that's a histamine reaction and I knew that we had something going on energetically.
And so our session was like, really, really powerful. Um, so I'm excited to continue to dive into that and tell more about what was going on. What you did during the session that allowed us to move that energy. So to get started, can you tell us and the listeners a little bit about who you are, what your business is and why you do it?
Yes. I love that question. Who I am, um, hard question to answer, but I'm going to do my best. Um, I think at the core, I am very much so, um, a woman. I say that all the time as a beginning introduction because what draw me to this work of coaching was women, [00:04:00] right? So I was born and raised in Middle East. So, um, and moved across the ward when I was 18 to the U S and now I live in Canada.
And being in all of these different places, uh, one thing that I noticed I get activated by all the time was women speaking for their rights, speaking for their power from a place of power, and really stepping into that space. And that's what activated me to really start my business in the first place, besides a lot of different personal reasons.
So I would say that my business is very much so about empowering women to really, um, connect to, you know, The leader within them. And when I say this, I don't just use leader as a buzzword. I think it's more for me, this sense of women being connected to their body. And for me, that creates so much agency because as women, we get disconnected from a lot of our difficult [00:05:00] emotions, such as anger, such as rage from an early age.
We're, you know, we're told to put on a nice girl mask. And I believe. I don't like that bypassing scenario anymore in my life, and I want more women to feel that connection to their body again and, uh, step into their power and really walk a path that feels aligned for their souls. That's beautiful. And there's so many things just in that opening statement that I want to dive into.
The first thing that came up is your experience. That's beautiful. Living in the Middle East and then coming over to the States and then Canada, I would love for you to share a little bit about that personal journey and any notes that you want to hit on for other listeners that have maybe had that transition or that experience of not living in the States and also for the people that have lived in the States their entire life or in Canada, [00:06:00] um, maybe share some wisdom that came from that journey that we haven't experienced.
Yeah, absolutely. I think the biggest lesson for me through immigrating several times in my life across the world has been that you're so much of the same that we're different tonight. I really think it's so important to remember that at times, because I think in the world that we live in today, we can get really lost in, you know, like, America, Middle East, Canada, like, all of these, like, you know, politics and things that come into our lives, kind of separating us from each other.
And I'm here to say, like, We're so much of the same and we experience a lot of the same things when it comes to our emotional blockages and how we feel alone in the world sometimes as women and I think, for me, through the personal experience of this, I came to realize that Everywhere I go, it doesn't matter where I am.
What [00:07:00] matters is how I create that sense of belonging and community and, you know, sisterhood that would bring me to my core, to my truth, and how I step into that even when I'm like miles and miles away from home. That's good. And I think you said something really specific connecting to your core. And that's, you know, a lot of the work that I do is coming back to that soul, being aware of what your soul wants and desires, right?
Because for you that's moved, someone that's moved around so often and genuine culture shock and differences, like those are major differences in places to live, right? And, If you were finding your worth or who you were on external things, that would create a really shaky ground as you began to shift. So I'd love for you to talk more about how your identity has had to shift or mold or transform as you've moved throughout your [00:08:00] life.
And maybe some difficulties that you found or some soft points of triggers of maybe when you noticed that you were Placing some validation and external things rather than internal. Yeah, absolutely. Oh my God, that is so powerful and such a profound question. Um, first of all, I've experienced so much difficulty and that cultural shock you spoke about is definitely real.
I remember when I first moved to the US and I was 18. I was just like mind blown by how much I am put off when I'm taken out of my comfort zone. That being not being around family, having to live in a completely different place that nothing was familiar, including the language. And I think for me, The biggest difficulty at that moment was I was so fucking scared and felt so isolated and alone in that moment of time, right?
So, I think the [00:09:00] biggest work for me has been to come into connection with my, as you said, with my core, because I think The most difficulties that I've experienced in my life, whether that being culture shock or burnout or feeling completely out of tune with my life force energy has been at moments when I didn't have a sense of connection, whether to somebody else or myself.
And I think. One of the biggest thing that helped me throughout my immigration was really finding this sense of connection to myself and how I hold everything I am in my inner space rather than, you know, like how I show up in the ward. And I remember when I was like, I think the first Vipassana journey I went on, I was in my early twenties and, um, I, I don't know if I've told you this story, but I basically, I only had [00:10:00] about, um, two months off work.
And given that I was on a visa in the U S I, I never had time off. So during those two months that I had off, I searched on Google and I was like, silent retreats, meditation. And the first thing that came up was Vipassana. I had no idea what I'm getting myself into. And then I signed up for it and I go there and I'm like, oh my God, like I get the emails and I see and I'm like, it's going to be 10 days of silent, uh, meditation and you're actually, um, disconnected from the outside world, meaning you don't have any cell phones, you can't have books, you can't have anything that entertains you in a sense, and you're just sitting for 10 hours.
Doing body scans, basically. So literally every day for 10 days, you're watching your body. You're observing the body. And that was the first moment that I was like, Oh shit. Like I am so [00:11:00] disconnected from this container that I've been like, you know, carrying in my life. And I have no idea what's actually going on within this container.
And that was really disturbing at the moment. I remember I came back feeling so. So, like, chaotic and feeling like, what the fuck? Why didn't anybody tell me like, you know, how, how much is going on in my inner container? And, um, I started doing a lot of different modalities of healing at that time that helped me connect to my power.
And I think the biggest thing through the immigration was stepping out of the fear, out of that sense of like, I'm the victim of my story to a sense of, I hold the power within me to go through whatever life is bringing me. And I say this with so much compassion because I went through waves and waves of emotions to be able to really step into that sense of power.
Hmm. That's good. So you use the [00:12:00] word, what was that long word that you said? The first thing you typed in the retreat and it was your first experience with some kind of retreat. Impossible. Okay, and what does that word exactly stand for? Uh, it means to see what really is. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. See what really is to witness what really is.
Got it. Understood. Okay. I did not know that word. So, and I am assuming a lot of our listeners did not know what that word is. Right. Okay. That's powerful. 10 days of 10 hours of not speaking and just observing your body. Wow. Wow. How did your nervous system handle that? Yeah. I think at the time I would say it was interesting for me because one thing I always tell my clients when they come to me is they're like, Oh, I want to release all these emotions like anger and [00:13:00] grief and really heal all these physical symptoms.
And I'm like, you know, the first step is actually a burnis. And I know that sounds so weird because we all think like, you know, there has to be something more or something more has to happen. But I think it built so beautiful for my nervous system to just be with what is and just to witness and become aware of what's happening and really create this inner safety.
For things to just come, pass through, and just die on their own. Instead of me trying to, like, get rid of things, or release things by force, or try to, like, you know, like, this sense of, like, me trying to heal something with force. Um, I think it was a very natural way for my nervous system to feel like, Oh, it's safe to actually show her.
What's happening inside and it took days. I would say the first five, six days. It was all frustration. It was all like, you know, moments of like, [00:14:00] I don't feel anything. I feel completely numb. Like, are these people actually feeling things? Cause I don't. Oh, I'm glad that you spoke to that because I can imagine some women that are just joining this.
Self awareness discovery, this personal development journey are experiencing the same thing like these people are absolutely whack if they are like seeing these things, hearing these things, feeling these things. And I think that goes to show the resiliency of the brain and the body and how we have so deeply and with so much stubbornness.
Transcripts cut off the access to our internal intuition, to what our body feels and experiences as an act of survival, as a requirement to function in trauma, to function in a society that says you must be everything and nothing at the same time. And for women, especially, Don't show too [00:15:00] much emotion because then you're crazy.
If you show too little emotion, you're a bitch. And so it's this huge cycle of, well, who am I? How do I survive? And I guess that means I need to fit into this really rigid, masculine way of being, which says, Feel nothing always produce and make sure to protect anyone and everyone and that means yourself first So it's this big disconnection that requires you to push through and it makes sense for so many people why they don't feel anything because their body required them to cut that off to go through the trauma cycle to go through the experience that many of them were given as like their family life or their set of cards but you said something super interesting where you were able to shift out of the victim and this awareness allowed you To reclaim that sense of self.[00:16:00]
So, can you talk a little bit about what you mean when you say victim story? Because I know that's a hot topic word, right? But how can you shift from maybe experiencing something really shitty, really hard, really traumatic, um, and then saying, I'm not a victim anymore. How would you go about approaching that in your experience and dealing with the body and the somatics?
Yes, absolutely. Um, first thing that I think you mentioned, and I want to reiterate and say it again, is our body, our system so intelligent, right? So it really creates this numbness out of protecting us. I always say this, because clients are like, I don't know, like, you know, I don't know why I don't feel anger.
Like, I don't know why I can't have tears. And I'm like, actually. Your body and your system knows and I think for me when I say victim mindset or victim story or being a victim of my [00:17:00] life, what I mean is I used to think there is this magic pill. There's this quick fix that's just going to come and take my anxiety away.
Take my traumas away, take all those years of feeling not enough, people pleasing away, and I kept chasing. For the next thing to be able to like, you know, do that, like really get rid of them, right, get rid of all of these things that just like make me frustrated. Right. And I think the biggest thing for me in that story is you're giving your power away.
You're giving your power to somebody else. to fix something within you. There's nothing to fix. There's nothing broken. Like, I just get so angry when I see like, you know, all these like buzzwords of like, um, let's fix, or control, or do this. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. Actually, it's the opposite. Where [00:18:00] physical symptoms show up, is where there is actually some, some block in the body, but also resistance.
We create sickness, disease, any sort of disorder by resisting. Okay. The first thing that took me out of that victim mindset and allowed me to claim my power was really being with that resistance and allowing my Myself to just see why my body is actually protecting me in this way. What has happened?
What are the, you know, what are the stories behind the story that I keep telling myself in loops in my mind? What is the story that my body is actually holding on to? That's making it protect me in this way, right? And really by reclaiming my power. What I mean is witnessing, welcoming, allowing, permitting, allowing myself to see what's actually happening.
Instead of giving my [00:19:00] power away to somebody else to figure it out, really coming back to myself, to my core, as you said, and seeing, okay, okay, body, like I'm listening, I'm listening, and allowing myself to listen. I think listening is claiming power. I think listening as women is such a feminist act as well, because we've been told to Find external validations for how we can fix what's broken inside of us.
But I think nothing is broken inside of us. I think we just need to listen and find what it is that makes us whole. What it is that makes us feel resourceful, even in moments of, you know, going through so much difficulty in our lives. Yeah, that's good. Woo! I'm getting like chilled as we talk. That's good.
And I love and wholeheartedly echo the idea that there is nothing broken about you. Rather, those things that maybe are making you sick or making [00:20:00] you, you know, Reflect into the 3D relationships or burnout. Something that you are enjoying. Those are adaptations. Those are not a reflection of your soul, of your core being, but rather survival mechanisms.
And they are the thing that can be transformed, but you are wholly perfect, complete. It's just getting back to that. The word anger has come up a lot in this conversation. And I think there's some power in that that I would love to discuss, um, and when you say, you know, observing the anger, allowing it, giving it permission to be there, a lot of, of our listeners, a lot of the women that I work with, they have a lot of anger, right?
While they also feel really shut down and numb. And I've heard things like, I mean, I want to experience. Love, I want to experience these highs of connection, but [00:21:00] I feel nothing unless I get so overwhelmed and I snap and I react, and I would love to talk about the connectedness of that, why that happens, and then What it would be like to be in true anger and, and what that anger means, how it shows up in your body and how to begin to heal that.
Yes, I love that question. Um, one thing you said is a lot of, a lot of women come to me and I want to say most of us as women experience this. You ask me, what did I see in all the different places that I've lived? And this is the same thing. thing that I've seen every woman. We all have anger. We all have rage.
Some of us have access to it, and some of us don't. And, um, some of us only have access to it in moments that we snap at others. And, um, What we're talking about here is integrated anger is anger that be actually allowed to be there in a relatively safe space [00:22:00] where we're held and, you know, we can integrate what it actually means rather than in moments of just like snapping and other people.
I always want to clarify this just because I think it's very important to mention that, um, feeling your anger doesn't mean getting like, you know, Snapping at other people whenever you want or screaming in the middle of the street. That's not what we're talking about. What we're actually talking about is most of us are told to be nice girls and actually never scream.
never see what is that rage within us and what it, what it wants for us to see. Right? I think anger is such an activating emotion. And one thing that I seen the healing word is people saying things like, yeah, I meditate on my anger. You know, I, I, You know, I write about my anger and I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's not, that's not feeling the anger and processing the anger.
What processing the anger actually means is going to an [00:23:00] activation state with a guide, really like allowing the anger to, you know, when we get angry, we make this like fist and our face becomes like all tense and our jaws like hurt and there is this sense of like our heart rate going up and we're feeling all of these activations.
We need to like, in a relatively safe space, activate that sense and really allow it to come out, like scream. I know so many women who don't know what they sound like when they scream and it makes me really sad because I'm like, well, actually that can tell you a lot about your desires, about your sexual desires, about your desires in life and your needs that you're not hearing because you're not allowing.
That come out. So one of the things that I would say about anger is really working with a guide who can put you in a space of activation and hold you in it and then bring you back to regulation [00:24:00] because we want your nervous system to regulate back and be able to come back to inner safety. Because most of us have never felt safe when anger has been around.
We've grown up only seeing unintegrated anger of a lot of like, especially like men. Our fathers screaming, yelling, like doing all these things that might not have necessarily felt safe or healthy for our nervous system. So again, our intelligent system has blocked this emotion because it's never felt safe to be held in that.
So really bringing that sense of inner safety afterwards for the nervous system to see, Oh. I can feel the anger and I can still be safe and I can still be loved and I still won't be abandoned and I still will be Literally safe in my skin and will be able to come out of that and experience something else like love right like joy Oh, i'm gonna get emotional over here.
That's good. And I think this is a really [00:25:00] unexplored topic That i've seen anyways in the myspace healing mindset all of that And you said that accessing that anger can provide awareness to our desires. It can uncover things. Can you talk a little bit more about how it could uncover things and how that may show up when you begin to access it?
Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to use myself as an example just because it's easier. I remember back in the days in my life where I was like, you know, I was feeling this sense of anger towards like how unfair the war is and like, what the fuck, like we live in Middle East and why does nobody else care about us?
Like, there's so much that's happening, you know, in our region. Um, I When I lived in the US specifically, I was like, oh, this is such a privilege to be able to like, ignore what's going on in that region. And there was this sense of anger, but I was never expressing it. There was this sense of like, me always blaming others and [00:26:00] putting it out into the world to really like, you know, kind of like, um, tell me that I'm seen.
That I'm worthy to be seen in my pain, right? So when I started doing anger work, doing somatic work, one thing that shifted within that realm was that I really understood, okay, I worked with that anger and I really understood, okay, what is it I'm actually angry about? And I, I really went deep into what is it that I'm angry about?
Is it the ward not seeing us? Or is it me not being able to speak up? And say, Hey, Ward, fucking see me, I I'm here in my pain and this is so much and I can hold this alone. And that created this sense of like, Oh, other women can see me in my pain. Oh, they're actually people who can hold me in my pain. And I am safe to explore that right.
And [00:27:00] that just shifted so much in my life because at that point, I was speaking up, I was setting boundaries with people who weren't. Yeah. Um into knowing about my life story. I was allowing myself to be held by women who actually wanted to see what's going on in that region of the world. I was allowing myself to really feel love and really feel that sense of, um, my needs of being seen being met by others, right?
Because I went through that work. And one other thing that I would say about your question about desires is that just like anything else in the physical realm, if we don't allow things to move in the body. So for example, if you are feeling like there is this like tense like sense of like, uh, somebody holding your throat and you can't speak up because there's this tightness or there's this tightness in your jaw and you feel this like, you know, like, pressure all the [00:28:00] time in your jaw.
What it could mean is you're probably not allowing the energy to move. Emotions are energy in motion. So you're not allowing the energy to move. You're holding it in your jaw. You're holding it in your throat. So when we do anger work or anything like that, We're moving the energy. We're allowing things to move from the throat, from this tightness, to open up, to move to the chest, to move to the feet, to see what it feels like to finally allow yourself to be angry, to be in your rage for the word.
And again, access the pain, but also life force energy. Out of anger comes life force energy, because now we know what we want the word to look like. So now we can actually take aligned actions to create that word. Mm. That's good. You are just so full of wisdom. I love this. And, oh, so good. You said, with the anger, you learn what you want the world to look like.[00:29:00]
And, you know, something that came up for me as you were speaking is this idea that we understand in the trauma world is that everything will show up. It's just a matter of, you know, Are you going to be consciously aware of how it's showing up and are you going to be the one that says, Okay, it's time.
It's time to experience this now. Or is it going to be out of your control and it happens to you? So that sounds like what, you know, the idea of rage, of anger work is you're consciously consciously. accessing it and saying, Hey, you have a place to speak. You have a place to be safe. Come out, show me what you need to say, instead of snapping at your partner or holding weight in ways that maybe isn't serving you or, um, breaking out all of these physical manifestations of anger, of frustration, of rage.
But with your work, Rosa, you allow that to show up in a container that's safe, and I [00:30:00] think you hit it on the nail, that there has been No teachings in our culture that allow for that expression, right? Even as kids, you know, I know we have some moms that are listeners, you know, we're told, don't throw a tantrum, don't scream, don't punch that pillow.
Right. And that's not to say we're not going to talk as you can't, that you should hit someone else or, you know, but. If there are moms or people thinking about becoming parents or interacting with other children, what is a safe way to begin to cultivate this rage, this anger allowance that allows people, allows kids, allows us, right, we have to reparent ourself, um, to access this anger and rage in a healthy and divine way?
Yeah, I love that question. And I think it's so needed in our world today, especially becoming parents, as you said, or being parents. And one thing [00:31:00] that I would say about that is what you mentioned, we never saw a healthy anger, right? So we would want our daughters to see what healthy anger actually looks like.
So for me, it's one of my friends actually asked me last week and she was like, you know, my kid is like having all of these tantrums that I don't know what to do with it. And I was like, what would it feel like to actually create play around anger? And I say this with so much love, but like literally having a play date with your kids, or If, if you want on your own to have like a moment of like, you know, hitting pillows together, like literally making it.
Hey, like, I know you're angry. Let's like actually explore what it feels like to hit pillows or silent screams or put on music and like shake and just like get it to like animal sounds like animals get angry. So we can like become a tiger with the kids become, you know, like really. [00:32:00] Finding representations of this anger in the body and making it not so heavy.
I think one thing that we haven't been taught about anger in our lives, especially as women, is these difficult emotions don't have to be super heavy, like crazy processes of like, let's just like go deep into anger and it's just going to be so much hard work and everybody's going to get crazy. No. It's not that, it's actually sometimes with emotions like this, it's actually understanding they can be so light, they can be playful, you can create play around anger and really let it build up in the body, like, hey, like, what does it feel like to get angry and be a tiger and let it out through a sound, or let it out through like, you know, you know, Just like literally like hitting a pillow like on a pillow or silent screams.
I love seeing people silent scream. It's like so funny, like five people like doing all of a sudden and you're like [00:33:00] seeing these like, you know, uh, anger releases that don't have any sounds. So it could look many other ways. One thing that I would say is it's about welcoming, uh, anger, both for us and for our kids and for our family.
And Just like I said, creating a relatively safe space for all of us to feel it, instead of like feeling like, oh, I shouldn't ever yell at my child. actually showing them, Hey, mommy can also feel frustrated sometimes. And I know you got frustrated the other day when I told you to do that. What do you feel like if we have like, you know, a moment of feeling this emotion that's called anger and really like, you know, tapping into creative ways of exploring anger with our kids sometimes even.
And I'm glad to like, you know, guide anybody that needs like ideas for that, um, to be able to like, you know, tap into the anger, but Just making it light, easy does it. We don't have to do. You know, [00:34:00] crazy outrageous to be able to bust this anger. That's so good. Yes, guys. And all of, uh, Rosa's things will be in the show notes.
So you'll be able to get in touch with her. Cause I know there's so many people that can benefit from your services and from the work that you do. Um, before we start to wrap up, can you just give an overview of. Somatics and why your work particular like what your work particularly is and why it's important to integrate it from a holistic health perspective.
Yeah. Absolutely. If I want to put it in simple words, um, the word Soma means body, by the way, people hear that word somatic and, um, I, I want to make sure it's very clear what it actually means. Soma means body. So, um, one thing I would say is my work is about really coming back to the system that protects us all of our lives.
It's this connection between our [00:35:00] nervous system, our mind, and our body. And how these two communicate to each other and somewhere along this path, most of us lose the connection to part of this, which is our body. A lot of us can speak about our emotion, intellectualize our emotion. We can go on a loop talking about our emotions, but not so many of us know what sadness feels like in the body.
What does actually sadness feel like? Is it, is it a tightness in your chest? Or is it a sense of pressure of somebody pushing you on your shoulder? What is it? Right? So my work is a lot of like, bringing that connection between mind and body back, understanding what emotions actually feel like in the body.
So then you can really access the wisdom behind the story that you continuously tell yourself in the mind. And also, one thing that I want to say is what I [00:36:00] mentioned earlier, To move energy instead of, instead of it getting, getting blocked in parts of our body and manifest itself as physical symptoms, really work with those physical symptoms to be able to like move energy.
allow emotions to come up and really uncover what we've been suppressing for years and years because we didn't have the inner safety to feel them. So creating inner safety to feel the full spectrum of emotions, releasing what needs to move through the body, And then really integrating what it feels like to have a mind and body that's connected and for for us to come back home to this container that holds up all of us all our lives.
Hmm. Beautiful. Beautiful. So what are you doing now? What are you offering? And where can people find you? Yeah, so [00:37:00] I have a few offers. Um, my main offer being my three month program called Heal to Lead. Um, which is a three month program that I've made for leaders and for women who are just ready with like, You know, they're just done with the quick fixes and they really actually want to explore and uncover their suppressed emotions and be able to create this connection between mind and body and be worked through many somatic interventions to be able to uncover that, create that inner safety, release emotions, and then regulate you back and integrate all of that during these three months.
So anybody who's interested in that can. Message me on my Instagram, CompassionLightWorker, and, um, Also, I do in person sessions in Toronto, Canada, in case any of your listeners are in Canada, and would like to [00:38:00] receive more of a, um, physical in person sort of, uh, healing work, um, that we can do together. And For that, I also do one off, you know, emotional release sessions in Toronto, if anyone is interested.
Um, so all of that can be found on my website, www. rosaglee. com. And also you can just message me on Instagram and I'll be happy to send anything that you need your way and help you. Find what works for you. Yes. Beautiful. And like I said, guys, I've done work with Rosa. It's amazing. 10 out of 10 recommend.
And what is your Instagram handle? It's compassion, light work here. Beautiful. Awesome. We will absolutely have to have you back. This was amazing. And I know we can explore like a million different emotions and scenarios. Um, so we'll absolutely have to have you back. Thank you so much for being here. I'm [00:39:00] honored to be alongside you, to learn from you, to grow with you.
You are incredible. And thank you for using your voice to show women what's possible and the healing that is possible. Um, there for them and guiding and providing a space for that. You are amazing and I am so grateful for you. Thank you so much. I'm so honored. And thanks so much for having me. I learned a lot from your wisdom as well.
And it's always so beautiful to hold a space together as women. So this is the essence of this work, right? So I'm so glad and I'm so honored to have been in this space with you. for having me. Of course. Thank you.